Remember the Breakwater Denim? BY FAR, my favorite pair of jeans I've ever owned. They're Quiksilver "relaxed fit" as well. Bought these assuming that they would be the same cut and style of jean. They're not. The Double Up jeans are much heavier denim. They're also quite a bit looser too. On me, they fit more like a "loose fit" denim. They come with a tag that reads "these jeans are made with raw unwashed fabric and could transfer onto other objects. They will also shrink if you wash them, so be sure to size accordingly" Would have been wise of Quik to have put this info on the item description. I washed them and dried them and they did not shrink that much. Looks like I got myself a pair of loose fit jeans. Note, however, that the build quality, denim quality, stitching and all that looks top notch so far. Its just the sizing that's weird.